[continued] This video, from what I gathered, comes from a genuine surveilance camera recording. It appears many times on YouTube. The most scary thing, in my opinion, is not the assault captured in it, but the user comments, and the way it was edited. Being assaulted can be horrible, but much more frightening, I think, is to discover that all the people who you care about laugh at what happened to you and think that you had it coming and in fact you shouldn't be complaining at all, what's the big deal? This is the case with this video. You can use Google Translate to translate the comments, but almost all of them say things like "Too funny!" "The faggot had it coming, LOL!!" "Never say no to a woman!" etc. The ones that defend the guy suggest that maybe he had problems to get it up, but concede that he shouldn't have gone into the restroom with the girl, unless he was prepared to follow through, so alas, he got what he deserved. I saw this video because my Brazilian friend recently shared it on Facebook, because of it being "hilarious", in his opinion (and his commenters agreed).
I think this example is interesting, because it shows rape culture that is extremely sexist: even in Brazil, almost everyone would be horrified to see this happening to a woman; but to a man, it is comedy (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RapeIsOkWhenItIsFemaleOnMale).
And it gives some perspective, too. By Loki, I swear I'm NOT trying to use the line "worst things happen in the world, therefore you should STFU" -- that would be very stupid (and it's astonishing how many people did use this reasoning with the Elevatorgate scandal). My point is different, it's what PZ said (http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/07/oh_no_not_againonce_more_unto.php): "What these situations demand is an appropriate level of response". People stupidly insisting, cajoling, and in general being insensitive and annoying? We reprimand them for acting like jerks. People shifting the blame for sexual assault on the victim? Now that is much more grave. Not in the same league, not in the same sport. That is rape culture. That deserves to be slammed down much more vigorously. Nobody should have to deal with that shit, not men, not women. I just don't like these things conflated into one, that's all.
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Date: 7/7/11 01:58 pm (UTC)From:This video, from what I gathered, comes from a genuine surveilance camera recording. It appears many times on YouTube. The most scary thing, in my opinion, is not the assault captured in it, but the user comments, and the way it was edited. Being assaulted can be horrible, but much more frightening, I think, is to discover that all the people who you care about laugh at what happened to you and think that you had it coming and in fact you shouldn't be complaining at all, what's the big deal? This is the case with this video. You can use Google Translate to translate the comments, but almost all of them say things like "Too funny!" "The faggot had it coming, LOL!!" "Never say no to a woman!" etc. The ones that defend the guy suggest that maybe he had problems to get it up, but concede that he shouldn't have gone into the restroom with the girl, unless he was prepared to follow through, so alas, he got what he deserved. I saw this video because my Brazilian friend recently shared it on Facebook, because of it being "hilarious", in his opinion (and his commenters agreed).
I think this example is interesting, because it shows rape culture that is extremely sexist: even in Brazil, almost everyone would be horrified to see this happening to a woman; but to a man, it is comedy (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RapeIsOkWhenItIsFemaleOnMale).
And it gives some perspective, too. By Loki, I swear I'm NOT trying to use the line "worst things happen in the world, therefore you should STFU" -- that would be very stupid (and it's astonishing how many people did use this reasoning with the Elevatorgate scandal). My point is different, it's what PZ said (http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/07/oh_no_not_againonce_more_unto.php): "What these situations demand is an appropriate level of response". People stupidly insisting, cajoling, and in general being insensitive and annoying? We reprimand them for acting like jerks. People shifting the blame for sexual assault on the victim? Now that is much more grave. Not in the same league, not in the same sport. That is rape culture. That deserves to be slammed down much more vigorously. Nobody should have to deal with that shit, not men, not women. I just don't like these things conflated into one, that's all.